Should students from overseas be included in the UK's maximum immigration target?
Selection Votes 
Yes 58%60 
No 21%22 
We shouldn't have a maximum immigration target 8%
I'm heartily indifferent to the whole topic 12%12 
Other, please specify. 2%
104 total 



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 Posted by MachIII  September 2, 2017 at 11:57 pmFrom 188.29.165.x  Report Abuse 
 
1. Any renewal application for leave must be made back in the home country.
2. Mandatory medical cover insurance, underwritten by the sponsor, which itself has liability underwritten.

allowing private bodies to sell visas (or any other state sanctioned privilege) is a bloody outrage. Agreed
 Posted by Lord T  August 29, 2017 at 11:12 pmFrom 82.34.127.x  Report Abuse 
 
They shouldn't be included if they off home when they are finished the course. Otherwise they must apply like everyone else.
 Posted by formertory  August 29, 2017 at 8:47 pmFrom 5.67.129.x  Report Abuse 
 
Voted "No", because any capping can be achieved by pricing the offering and requiring that the student is enrolled at a properly regulated (no madrassas! university to study a STEM subject, Law degrees, MBA and other business-related qualifications in order to get the visa.

Then when they've qualified, hope we can keep them because god knows, we don't appear to produce enough first-class home-grown brains.
 Posted by Steven Holland  August 29, 2017 at 5:08 amFrom 5.133.19.x  Report Abuse 
 
If we have a target (I'd say a 'cap' was more appropriate - purely for pragmatic planning purposes - if we know that a new Coventry equivalent is arrving every year, we need to build a new Coventry's worth of schools, houses, hospitals etc every year), we would need accurate measures, however I would exclude students, as student housing and welfare is generally separate to that of the rest of the population.
     Posted by Steven Holland in reply to Steven Holland  August 29, 2017 at 5:10 amFrom 5.133.19.x  Report Abuse 
     
    ...and it must be possible to tie the visas to graduation in some manner - they managed to tie everything from hall fees to library book fines to it at my alma mater...
 Posted by JQ  August 29, 2017 at 3:47 amFrom 2.216.243.x  Report Abuse 
 
The problem with student visas was that in the Blair years lots of people (mostly from India) were enrolling to study English at the London College of English (etc) when their actual intention was to work.

The student visa allowed 20 hours of work, which they probably didn't adhere to, but it just meant that they could say they were working legally if someone came to check. Since the educational institute wasn't responsible, nobody cared if the supposed students never showed up to class.

The fix was simple, just don't give visas to people who want to study at the London College of English, which was already being implemented in the Brown years, but since then people keep having these odd ideas that lots of students are overstaying.

Nowadays overstaying means that once you leave you can't come back. I don't know anybody who did not grow up in the UK who can stand being in this country for more than 12 months without getting out.
     Posted by Mark WADSWORTH in reply to JQ  August 30, 2017 at 4:42 amFrom 81.148.100.x  Report Abuse 
     
    JQ, yes allowing private bodies to sell visas (or any other state sanctioned privilege) is a bloody outrage.


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