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We all love halo but putting in this much effort to try to make it somewhat good is stupid. It should have been great from the start like Halo 2. This game will never be something great.

Halo has died ladies and gentleman...
Its time to move on to another game..

I hear Bungie's Divinity is going to be huge by the way

I watched this game right now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?vEdEg1rNKeg4featuresharelistPL05566992D5FEFDDC

and I think only BR settings it's pretty sick and funny. Best than DMR loadout. Halo 4 BR 4sk and Halo 2 BR 4sk are very similar in kill times and range, in my opinion this is the way.

The point people are missing about Halo's gameplay was it was Halo's gameplay. If you want CoD, go play CoD.

Halo is not about instant respawns and ordnance drops or loadouts, it's about controlling the map by using the power weapons the right way. If you can't, then you'll die trying to use them. What 343i did was turn Halo into the generic bullshit that CoD is.

CoD- Camp behind bushes and shoot at enemy player's back or feet. Use your killstreaks for more unskilled kills and that's game.

Halo- Setting up a kill and reacting along with setup and team work. Not to mention the amazing plays by holding down snipe and cross map sticks. Anyone remember taking down sword by a crucial BxR? That shit took skill.

If you didn't like Halo before, it's because the gameplay wasn't for you. CoD's was. That doesn't mean hardcore Halo fans just have to deal with the changes because 343i thinks this is what Halo needed. A generic band aid to appeal to a "broader" audience so they can bank cash. That's not what a competitive title like Halo was about. You think Halo 4 is going to be a hit in MLG? LOL look at Reach.

The point people are missing about Halo's gameplay was it was Halo's gameplay. If you want CoD, go play CoD.
Halo is not about instant respawns and ordnance drops or loadouts, it's about controlling the map by using the power weapons the right way. If you can't, then you'll die trying to use them. What 343i did was turn Halo into the generic bullshit that CoD is.

by the way this poll looks its about half want the old way half like the new way... if anything 343 failed to keep everyone happy so they just made one side happy and left the "pro" players to suffer. not saying that your bad if you like halo 4 but there nothing competitive about the game anymore. there not a reason to leave spawn on a slayer game you camp and can get drops for weapons. your scoop says in so it not like you have to be close to do damage. I don't hate the fact that's there is AA I can accept change but to kill how a game is played is a different story.

Halo is never going to be a big competitive game again. If we keep using this new stuff (aa perks etc) H2 and H3 has been the most succesfull games in the history of halo. So why in the hell change it as much as we do? Some changes is importent. What 343 has done is that they have been taken in stuff in the game that Doesn't fit in for competitive play nor halo. If 343 Doesn't change it back as it were there will not be anyone who is gonna play halo. So please save halo and make it as it were. Look at halo 4 people is still playing reach and that's not a good sign. Firat thing we got to do: take out everything that destroys the balance of the game and things that's not halo. Then we can put in new stuff to the game. Such as spectator mode, new/old gametypes. Last but not least were are the small Size maps that we love. There are mid-big Size maps as long as I can see. Peace.

4sk BR start with a DMR start. Obviously the DMR will then have an AA like thruster or hologram (if you guys really feel like hologram is viable) with two starting grenades. That, or just take out the DMR all together as a starting weapon because DMR starts decreases the skill gap. Given the DMR's range, a 4sk BR will level the playing field. Try it out, because that's what all this testing is for, right?

I feel like the best way to go is to have load outs and armor abilities because thAt us the way halo 4 is played go compete on halo 3, if you disagree but the point of having the competition in halo 4 is to use the tools and devices they give you not take them away to play like an older iteration

You cannot play "Halo" when people can scope in and kill you on their own in 3 seconds... The DMR makes Halo not fun. Now not being able to unscope it... why not try playing Halo with Sniper starts... Kappa.

Halo needs to reinvent, new rules, new maps, stop the same rules and remakes.

MLG needs to get hip with the times. Plain and simple.

I think that Halo 4 is decent. 343 is filled with corp. greed, but it's fun to play. I just wish the BR wasn't in swat...

Somewhere in between.

I'd like to see the BR (and maybe Carbine) as the only loadout rifle(s) available.

Even poll is even. To those who say "you want halo 2/3, play halo 2/3" gtfo. Such notions are ridiculous due to the fact that H2 no longer has Live support and Halo 3 suffers from terrible netcode.

Let's face it. The majority of the layers placed over the core of Halo 4 is a crock of random crap and does not even deserve consideration in the context of competitive/hardcore gaming.

EVEN starts should be paramount in any such gametype settings. That said, I'm not vehemently against the notion of being able to choose between various rifles at start, but this should be the absolute limit of loadout options.

Anything beyond this introduces the notion of wins based merely on choosing options in a menu, as opposed to wins based on gameplay itself.

How anyone can seriously support such an idea, whilst solemnly declaring themselves in favor of "competitive/hardcore settings" is simply beyond my understanding.