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Posted by clare spark October 2, 2013 at 3:40 am. From 71.107.249.x Report Abuse
Steven Alan Carr's book of 2001 (Cambridge UP already covered the territory of Urwand's book and nailed the terrible anti-Semitism of the time that blamed Hollywood Jewish control of everything. It also noted a Nation magazine piece of 1941 that made the same allegation as Urwand: that the moguls put business ahead of morals. But worst of all, Urwand replicates the trend in cultural studies that makes anti-Zionism respectable. In his final pages he worships Ben Hecht who stood up to the evil bosses and recanted his early support for Israel.
Posted by William Burns October 2, 2013 at 1:12 am. From 108.18.71.x Report Abuse
It's a historical blog, the word "do
ent" is going to come up fairly often. You need to fix this.
Posted by Craig J. Bolton September 27, 2013 at 2:05 am. From 68.2.39.x Report Abuse
An interesting variety of allegations about a book with the unappealing thesis that Americans didn't much care about opposition to antisemitism prior to the end of WWII. Obviously, couldn't be true. Jews ruled the world, then and now.
But for all of the above righteous idignation I fail to see any specific backup. Which of Unwand's facts are false? Where, specifically, is his do
entation falsified or grossly mischaracterized. Can any of you be specific? Or do you simply disagree with his conclusions and want to mask that disagreement by throwing mud?
Posted by Observer September 26, 2013 at 10:45 am. From 131.216.64.x Report Abuse
This reminds of an earlier book from Harvard, Daniel Goldhagen's Hitler's Willing Executioners. Raul Hilberg, the dean of Holocaust historians, says Goldhagen is "totally wrong about everything," and Israeli historians Omar Bartov and Yehuda Bauer also criticized Goldhagen's book severely.
Posted by Warren Chaney September 26, 2013 at 6:43 am. From 72.179.4.x Report Abuse
Mr. Greco makes an excellent point. Having read "The Collaboration", I was appalled at its sheer lack of do
entation. Of course, when all the writer offers is a “made up” history, there is little do
entation to be had. The deeper point that Greco makes is that it is time that media writers be taken to task for their fictional accounts. I would also concur with the previous writer’s assertion that the Ph.D. be withdrawn...if only for creating fraud under the pretense that it is history.
Posted by Elizabeth Monroe September 26, 2013 at 6:38 am. From 172.4.33.x Report Abuse
Some of Mr. Urwand's citations from his 60 pages of notes are so difficult to obtain, one wonders if he is counting on no one actually having the time to check them. Perhaps some of the early reviewers fell into that trap. They were on deadlines and were confident that Harvard surely vetted their fellow's work. Apparently NOT!
Posted by Mike Greco September 26, 2013 at 5:51 am. From 98.150.236.x Report Abuse
I believe Denby did not go far enough in his review and follow-up blog to challenge Urwand's false allegations and flawed scholarship. Hollywood's Jewish moguls did not "collaborate" with the Nazis, make a "pact" with Hitler, or acquiesce to their demands to protect their German market.
Harvard responded to Denby's criticism by asserting that Urwand's 60 pages of notes allow the reader to judge Urwand's scholarship for themselves. But Urwand plays fast and loose with the evidence. Many of the do
ents cited in THE COLLABORATION do not say what Urwand claims for them. Many of his most sensational allegations are provided with not do
entary evidence whatsoever.
Urwand and his book is a fraud. I go further than Denby's call for Harvard to investigate the book they published. If Urwand's doctoral dissertation upon which THE COLLABORATION is based employs the same fraudulent citation, I call upon UC Berkeley review his "scholarship" and determine if his Ph.D should be withdrawn.
Posted by Peter Schwarz in reply to Mike Greco September 27, 2013 at 12:59 pm. From 173.66.59.x Report Abuse
"Urwand plays fast and loose with the evidence". Where and how? Please prove it. Have you ever examined the records he used? Be specific as requested previously. Calling him fraud on a public forum is serious and not be to taken lightly. Unless you have actually worked with the primary source\/original records, I would be careful with your words. You may not agree with his conclusions, but I have trouble here if you have not examined the records he did.
My issue is those who refuse to do original work in archives think they know the universe.
They do not.
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